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When thoughts become your enemy
In this column we profile unusual groups. This week, Ketan Tanna meets a group of people who meet to collectively combat a sapping mental disorder
   All the time I wanted to be clean. My obsession with cleanliness went to such an extreme that not only did I bathe innumerable times a day, I began using washing powder to do it. I’d brush my teeth with it as well. I refused to touch anyone in my house, including my mother,’’ says Nagma. Ten others in the room look on agape as the 20-year-old candidly recounts how her Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) almost cost her her sanity.
   In a room on the first floor of a building near Lalbaug police chowki, Mumbai’s first OCD support group is in session. Victims of the disorder meet on the first Saturday of every month and share their experiences and progress reports.
   Nagma was labelled mad by her family who could not understand her obsessive need to be clean. Her illness brought the Khajuraho denizen to Mumbai in search of a solution. Doing the rounds of the psychiatry units of public hospitals did not really help, but a chance meeting with someone who knew of the OCD support group has brought a semblance of hope into her life. Though she acknowledges that she still has a problem, it is under control. “Now I wash myself only three to four times a day,” she says cheerfully.
As Nagma talks, the others nod in agreement, and then embark on their own OCD tales. Twenty-two-year-old Vishal, a serious-looking bespectacled youngster from a small town in Maharashtra, reveals unhesitantly that his OCD revolves around masturbation and sexual thoughts that almost ruined his life. “My OCD started acting up when I enrolled in engineering college,’’ he says. “My parents could not comprehend what was happening to me. Both, my studies and my health suffered.’’ It was only after Vishal came to Mumbai, consulted doctors and enrolled in the OCD support group that things began to change. It’s been a few months since he has begun dealing with his OCD, and there has been a decline in the potency of the medicines he takes.
   Vishal’s problem evokes much sympathy from the parents of 15-year-old Justin D’souza. For over two years, this Borivili resident was a bundle of nerves, prone to vomiting and crying at the drop of the hat. Justin hated travelling by bus and train because he believed that touching something or someone would give him germs. His thought process was tortured. “I’d imagine that I would not be able to give exams or flunk because I could not concentrate. I would then envision myself being thrown out of school and not being able to fulfil my dream of becoming a software engineer,’’ says Justin, explaining how his mind played tricks on him, impairing his judgment. His parents initially thought it was just stress but a friend of Justin, who also had OCD, realised that there was more to Justin’s emotional problems.
   Justin’s parents say they were fortunate enough to realise that their son suffered from an illness. “There’s a very thin line between being obsessed with something and suffering from OCD. In Justin’s case, his tension and obsession overwhelmed his personality. He would suddenly burst into tears and it was difficult for him to even finish his exams,’’ says his father. Things have improved, however, and despite not completing a portion of his board exam papers, Justin scored 70 per cent.
   While doctors are the ones who can diagnose and treat OCD, a support group is invaluable. As ‘Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders’, a book edited by Eric Hollander and Dan J Stein explains, those suffering from OCD often have a fear that others will discover their secret obsessions or observe their rituals and label them mad. As a result of this, they have poor social networks, and OCD support groups are a good vehicle for decreasing the social isolation they feel.
   Often, as evidenced by this particular group in Mumbai, a support group serves as the doorway to treatment and the starting point on the path to recovery. Hollander and Stein explain that the dooropening function is extremely important because it is estimated that less than 20 per cent of those suffering from neurobiological disorders such as OCD are in treatment. In India, that figure would be even less.
   The Mumbai group comprises people from a spectrum of backgrounds. Ali Akbar, a 20-year-old youngster from the powerloom town of Bhiwandi, who for years had imagined that he was mentally and physically weak, went through a series of tests, medicines and doctors before he finally realised that he suffered from OCD. Shekhar Kulkarni, a 33-year-old graphic artist sits quietly even though he is supposed to be the most vocal one in the group. But he lights up when the group talks of its experiences in combating the illness.
   Shekhar’s problem was that he simply could not travel alone in a bus or train, and often felt claustrophobic in enclosed spaces. Once when he was on his way from Pune to Mumbai in a bus, he started getting panic attacks midway. “My stomach started hurting and I felt it would burst and I would collapse. I just got off the bus.’’ His aging mother did travel with him for a while but that could not carry on. The OCD support group has helped him, says Shekhar, and his dependency on people has lessened.
   Shirin Mistry, who started suffering from a cleanliness OCD after her marriage, went through endless rounds of drugs and treatment. Her husband, Rohinton, who often accompanies her to the OCD meetings says that very often general physicians or family doctors are unable to diagnose the disorder and often give symptomatic medicines without realising the gravity of the problem.
   There are bizarre cases of OCD as well. A man attended some of the meetings wearing dark glasses which he wouldn’t remove for a second. He refused to remove them because he believed that those around him would be able to look into his eyes and read his mind.
   The OCD group is free for all those seeking help, and runs under the aegis of the Samaritans. Dr Fabian Almeida, who supervises the meetings, says the classic symptoms of OCD are that thoughts are intrusive, automatic and seem to be out of one’s control.
   “Diagnosing the disorder helps to outline specific treatment and involves a combination of behaviour therapy techniques as well as pharmacotherapy and a host of self-help methods,’’ he says. And then sums up the motto of the group in three succinct words: “Thinking without sinking.’’ TNN

FORCE OF HABIT: Members of the OCD support group look towards a more hopeful future

  1. srinivasan
    August 31, 2008 at 4:07 am | #1

    hi ketan,
    can you email me the address and contact details of any OCD help group in mumbai
    regards

  2. October 20, 2008 at 8:06 am | #2

    I want to address and contact details of ocd.group.

  3. Laxmi Rao
    November 5, 2008 at 5:09 am | #3

    Hi Can I have the contact number of ocd support group in Mumbai. Thanks.

    Rgds

    Laxmi

  4. Gaurav
    November 7, 2008 at 10:33 am | #4

    Hi Can I have the contact number of ocd support group or love – destroyed individuals in Mumbai. Thanks.

  5. hi….
    November 14, 2008 at 7:30 am | #5

    can i have the names of ocs support groups in kolkata

  6. C Patel
    December 16, 2008 at 3:17 am | #6

    Hi Can you please send me the contact details of the OCS support group in India?

    Thanks a bunch!
    - Patel

  7. Manmeet
    February 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm | #7

    Could you please send me the contact details of OCD support group

  8. Malini
    August 4, 2009 at 8:43 am | #8

    Hi

    Can I have the contact details of an OCD support group in Chennai?

    Thanks
    Malini

  9. Alka
    August 12, 2009 at 5:34 am | #9

    Can I have the address of the OCD support group in Mumbai

    • Ashish
      June 16, 2010 at 11:32 am | #10

      U also suffering from OCD like me?

  10. keny
    October 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm | #11

    hi
    i would like some details of this support group, maybe an address or a phone number would do.

  11. Shahkar
    December 22, 2009 at 1:11 pm | #12

    Hi,

    I am in urgent need, Can I have the name, address or phone number of any OCD support group in PUNE.

    • VINAY MAHAJAN
      May 24, 2010 at 9:41 am | #13

      I can suggest you to approch NIMHANS,Banglore,instead of trying anywhere.
      You can get details at NIMHANS site.Just type NIMHANS in Google,and you will have lot of information.
      Alternatively you can contact me on 9822308940
      With Best Wishes,
      Vinay Mahajan

  12. Prashanth
    January 8, 2010 at 10:35 am | #14

    Hi,

    I would like to know the details of this support group in chennai.

  13. ravi
    January 21, 2010 at 7:57 am | #15

    hi
    i would like some details of this support group, maybe an address or a phone number would do.

  14. ravi
    January 22, 2010 at 9:36 am | #16

    hi mr ketan…. i am not getting any one from that phone number would you send address please…

  15. ajay
    February 14, 2010 at 3:12 pm | #17

    can any one provide me the address details of OCD support group in mumbai

  16. Chris
    March 18, 2010 at 5:59 pm | #18

    can u tell me wether there is an OCD group in Chennai. I am on the verge of killing myself.

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 9:35 pm | #19

      HI mate i saw ur question in website well dont get much depressed and plz dont think of commiting suicide just forget about this ideas.. Im personally an ocd sufferer from 11 yrs and have experienced much depression loneliness and pain just like u.. i know it is very frusterating thing to do compulsions like washing cleaning arranging to get rid of uncontrolled obsessive thoughts but depression or giving up is not the end or solution.. first of all do consult a very good psychiatrist he will guide u and medications will be started after sometime behaviour therapy will also be done which will give vry good results.. it is imp that u consult a very good psychiatrist.. i think there r very good doctors in chennai and if not go to mumbai in mumbai there a very good psychiatrists.. if it has been many years of ur ocd i would advise u to consult Dr Bhagvati in mumbai he is the NO 1 Neuro physician of India.. he would give u correct and guide u with this.. i know like me u also will be facing social economical or career realted and personal life problems but dont give up there r many better treatments of ocd nowadays even stereotactic treatment ia also available in mumbai… do not lose hope as i have not and after lot of suffering m very good now and able to live quite a good normal life… if u have any questions or want information plz do email me or if u wish can call me on my no its 09824655524.. bye tc and all the best for ur future..

      • gagan
        November 5, 2011 at 7:34 pm | #20

        hi
        gagan this side , my sister is suffer from ocd problem from last 3 to 4 years , now her problem increase a lot plz help her to get out of this ,, now she got a socide thought is her mind , always thought about socide , she is 28 yr old married ,, in lwas are good ,, no problem in family ,, even nobady no abt her prob , only she share with me , she dont have a baby ,, she said 1st i wanna solve this prob , she got married from last 6 years before marrige she will b olryt , but now she is very upset scarred from everyone , plz tell me the best of best dr in delhi of OCD if u know

      • November 9, 2011 at 4:24 am | #21

        i am not sure of any ocd chapter in delhi. you may contact some drs in in delhi lile dr sanjay chugh or anybody else.

      • cm
        February 19, 2012 at 9:00 pm | #22

        hi chitan
        thanks a lot for the hope. my brother is sufffering from OCD , he is a doctor as well doing his pg , thanks a lot for this . may be i may call to talk to u. in some time i dont want want to take ur privacy so i m asking ur permision to talk to u. it will will be help me if u can give me the no of dr Bhagvati or any detalils about him.
        thanks a lot

      • February 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm | #23

        HI no need to thanks dear..u can call me anytime ill help as much as i can..

  17. Dhaval
    March 27, 2010 at 4:58 pm | #24

    can I have the phone no of ocd support group in pune and mumbai?

  18. yogesh
    April 2, 2010 at 6:29 pm | #25

    pls pass me on the ocd support group in hyderabad or any details abt the treatment available

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 8:57 pm | #26

      Treatment is primarily medications it is very imp that u consult a very good psychiatrist he is the best person to help u.. along with medications behaviour therapy is done that gives very good results…ur psychiatrist will advise to and guide u about this therapy and also medications will be given this will give much relief in symptoms and after certain time symptoms will go on reducing.. but this process is bit lengthy sudden effect is not there will take atleast a year to see very good results but it depends on person to person i personally have ocd since 11 years and m telling u my experience plz note that it is very imp that u consult a very good psychiatrist it matters a lot…. also ask the doctor to explain u what ocd is and how it happens to the patient and the family it will really help him….

  19. shabnam khanna
    April 11, 2010 at 8:15 am | #27

    I need to know OCD support group address in Delhi or Mumbai for my daughter who is 14 years old and is suffering from OCD. Please help me out and provide the address.

    Thanks a ton

  20. archna
    April 13, 2010 at 6:08 am | #28

    is there an OCD support group in delhi too if yes please tell me

  21. April 13, 2010 at 6:12 am | #29

    i hv this continuous habit of washing hands again and again sometimes my mind is clouded with erotic thoughts which get out of my control i know it is ocd consulted the shrink
    it has helped but these compulsive thoughts still tend to interfere with my normal routine

  22. Maharaja
    April 19, 2010 at 4:09 pm | #30

    I am a ocd suffer from 2 years please email me the address and contact details of any OCD help group in mumbai and navi-mumbai.

    My biggest ocd problem is that I have a continous fear of contamination my females

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm | #31

      Hi ocd group helps u a lot but the main thing is u should consult a very good psychiatrist he is the best person to help u along with medications behaviour therapy is done which gives very good results. In mumbai very good psychiatrists are there and the best of all is Dr Bhagvati he is the no 1 neuro physician of India consult him once ull get much good advice

  23. rupa kohli
    April 23, 2010 at 4:17 pm | #32

    hi i am a ocd suffer from 1 year please email the address of any ocd help group in raipur.

  24. shalini
    May 1, 2010 at 5:15 pm | #33

    could u plz tell me the contact no. of the ocd support group in mumbai?is there one in delhi too??

    • May 1, 2010 at 5:24 pm | #34

      not sure if there is a OCD grp in delhi in mumbai you can doctor almeida on 0-9821317535

    • Ashish
      June 16, 2010 at 11:48 am | #35

      u too suffering from ocd like me

  25. shalini
    May 1, 2010 at 5:17 pm | #36

    could u plz tell me the contact no. of the ocd support group in mumbai?

  26. far
    May 30, 2010 at 11:10 am | #37

    can u plz give me the contact no. of ocd support group in surat? and also the address.

  27. cyril
    June 1, 2010 at 1:05 pm | #38

    pl let me know d address and contact no of ocd support groups in KOLKATA.thanx.

  28. usha
    June 27, 2010 at 3:23 pm | #39

    Pl let me know address and contact no. of ocd support group in Chennai. Thanks

  29. hi
    July 18, 2010 at 8:30 am | #40

    hi if you find answer pls let me know also

  30. shrikant
    October 20, 2010 at 12:01 pm | #41

    please let me know address and contact no. of ocd support group in pune,Thanks

  31. rina
    October 21, 2010 at 4:25 am | #42

    any one who knows of support group for ocd in pune or if there r people in pune who r ready to form a support group for ocd I will be interested

    • ruma
      November 20, 2010 at 7:32 am | #43

      hi
      i am 36 years old and even i am having ocd since long time and is looking for people suffering from ocd as i also want to be a member of this ocd group

  32. Sandesh
    November 26, 2010 at 9:32 am | #44

    Hi

    Can you give me address of doctor i am suffering a lot with OCD

    • Karan Chhabria
      January 21, 2011 at 9:30 am | #45

      Sandesh :Hi
      Can you give me address of doctor i am suffering a lot with OCD

      namaste :please contact dr almeida who is in charge of the ocd group. his no is 9821317535
      *Ketan Tanna http://www.ketan.net http://www.ketan.in Mobile:9821034500*

      Maharaja :I am a ocd suffer from 2 years please email me the address and contact details of any OCD help group in mumbai and navi-mumbai.
      My biggest ocd problem is that I have a continous fear of contamination my females

      ruma :hii am 36 years old and even i am having ocd since long time and is looking for people suffering from ocd as i also want to be a member of this ocd group

      srinivasan :hi ketan,can you email me the address and contact details of any OCD help group in mumbairegards

      srinivasan :hi ketan,can you email me the address and contact details of any OCD help group in mumbairegards

      shalini :could u plz tell me the contact no. of the ocd support group in mumbai?

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 9:06 pm | #46

      HI well i dont know which city u live but would advice u plz consult a very good psychiatrist if not available in ur city then go to mumbai delhi ahmedabad.. it is very imp to consult a psychiatrist otherwise ocd symptoms will go on increasing and would become worse. medications will be started which will provide much relief and after sometime behaviour therapy will be done which gives very good results but all this things will be guided by the psychiatris.. also ask the doctor to explain to u and ur family what ocd is that will help u and them very much psycologically and slowly ull get better…

  33. Sandesh
    November 26, 2010 at 9:37 am | #47

    Hi

    Sir, please give me address of doctor in Bangalore i am suffering a lot with it

  34. December 6, 2010 at 4:18 pm | #48

    pls get me address of a doctor in gurgaon for a patient in family

  35. shailendra shastri
    January 4, 2011 at 8:24 am | #49

    Can I get address of any good doctor for OCD in Mumbai, preferably in western zone. My wife is suffering from OCD of dirt from last one and half year.

    • January 4, 2011 at 8:42 am | #50

      please contact dr almeida who is in charge of the ocd group. his no is 9821317535

      *Ketan Tanna http://www.ketan.net http://www.ketan.in Mobile:9821034500*

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 9:10 pm | #51

      Well there are many good psychiatrists in mumbai i dont know exactly there names but i would advise u to consult Dr Bhagvati he is the no 1 neurophysician of India and he will give u vry correct and good advise… and if u have not yet consulted any doctor plz do consulat a very good psychiatrist he is the best person to help u otherwise ocd will increase severely…

  36. ganesh pawar
    March 13, 2011 at 3:30 pm | #52

    my brother is suffering from ocd like washing hand. he think every where is dirt .he will not touch any one.he is 20 year’s old but he is not accepting that he is suffer from ocd.because dirt thought in his mind he leave the school in 7th.now he is doing nothing my parents are in tension.so plz give me advise what should i do as early as possible.

    thank you

    • Chintan
      May 2, 2011 at 9:18 pm | #53

      HI as u said ur bro is suffering from ocd like dirt contamination and washing u should immediately consult a very good psychiatrist he is the best person to help u.. if a good doctor is not available in ur city then go to mumbai delhi ahmedabad bangalore chennai and consult a good psychiatrist.. otherwise ocd symptoms will go on increasing and all things will become bad… when ull consult a good doctor he will guide u and explain ur bro and ur family about ocd how it happens and what is it so ur bro will realise all the things and psycologically things will change.. initially medciations will be started which will give relief and along with that behaviour therapy will be done which will give very good results.. but it is the psychiatrist that will be guiding u he knows the best.. im personally being suffering from ocd since 10 yrs and same symptoms r there of dirt and washing initially i was also suffering very much could not go to school or college but after consulted a good psychiatrist and starting medications and behaviour therapy m much better and m able to go to job.. if u need any other guidance plz email me bye tc

  37. Chintan
    April 18, 2011 at 7:03 am | #54

    im chintan from vadodara gujarat… im suffering from ocd itsellf from 11 yrs. the initial stage in ocd is very severe where no medicine is given.. i have the same problem of washing hands and everything… but after medications and pyscotherapy m well enough to live atleast 70 percent normal life… i suggest u should take him to a very well known psychiatrist..he is the best person who will help u.. once the medications will be started u will feel the changes in him and after that behaviour therapy or psycotherapy will help u even more.. it is very important that he and ur family should know about this disease and understand it completely it is not madness or anything it is just a behaviour problem.. ask the doctor to explain to u and even u can read articles on net just search on google and i would suggest u should start suddenly just find a very well known psychiatrist and consult him

  38. radhika
    April 29, 2011 at 5:37 pm | #55

    My brother is suffering from strong OSD ,, he’s been given medication but still the repetative thoughts of how god being the superior power occupies his mind all the time..he’s not able to come to any conclusion, he even can’t sleep in the night…he’s even getting violent sometimes, ….plzzzzz help me.

  39. Vastu
    May 13, 2011 at 4:33 am | #56

    I would very very strongly recommend to consult NIMHANS in Bangalore. the doctors are excellent and best in the country. Their approach to treatment is friendly. They dont really treat you like patients. The cost is very nominal.

    there is a GOOD possibility of treatment in NIMHANS. Please try it out

  40. satya
    May 22, 2011 at 8:06 am | #57

    Am a 21 yr old student in chennai . Am suffering from OCD and due to certain reasons i cannot visit a doctor for the same . I want to know of ppl conduct self help meetings or just a gathering to discuss the disorder in chennai .

    Thank you .

  41. sagar rj
    August 10, 2011 at 8:16 pm | #58

    Hi ,Does any one know any ocd group in mumbai.I have been visiting
    perfect group every month,this is sstarted by anand nadkarni.if wish to visit this group mail me ,i will provide you the detail.Also plese share
    if there are any other support groups.

    my email id :rj.saga@gmail.com

  42. Manish
    August 27, 2011 at 5:12 pm | #59

    hi,

    I am suffering from ocd and want to get rid of it .
    kindly give me the number of few ocd sufferers with whom I can talk and ask for its treatment.

    Thanks,

    • August 27, 2011 at 7:57 pm | #60

      Hi manish this is chintan from vadodara gujarat. Im also suffering from ocd since 11 years and doing medication i know much about ocd if u have any query u can contact me. Also i have heard from a lot of people that CBT i.e. cognitive behaviour therapy has a good success ratio i would suggest u to try that.. my no is 9824655524 ..bye tc get well soon and all the best.

  43. September 9, 2011 at 6:24 pm | #61

    Hii everybody this is chintan from vadodara. im also suffering from ocd since 11 years and undergoing medication but i found that cognitive behaviour therapy is very successful in treating ocd. on net u can search about cognitive behavious therapy ull get lots of information. right now im undergoing cbt and have improved a lot.. So just have this therapy it is really successful in treating ocd…

  44. smita
    November 16, 2011 at 2:45 am | #62

    I want to know if this support group is still on. How do family members help someone who has Ocd.

  45. December 22, 2011 at 7:38 pm | #63

    why is brain surgery for ocd less preferred in india?

  46. NG
    February 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm | #64

    hey chintan.
    so far i have never opened any of these sites.well first off all great kudos for ur work.secondly u just realized by seeing so many people on the forum that its just another ds like typhoid or malaria.so shudn panic.i am a doc.doin my PG,and saw that my brother had written it to you.how carin people are.i am 25 yr old and it all started when i was roughly arnd 17.i have read a lot of literature about OCD.some say it due to imbalance of neuro transmitters etc.and the list of theories is endless.
    i was thinking that should i take medicines,i mean i was always scared that i never want to get dependent on them,u know what i mean.i have a huge germ phobia.and being a doc its hard to cope with it.
    u know i recently heard that magnetic resonance wave therapy has also come.i mean i wanted to write so much but don’t know exactly what to write.can u tell me if u know someone in delhi.and what do you suggest.
    do you min if i call u.
    thankin NG.

    • February 22, 2012 at 5:28 pm | #65

      Hi i would be glad if i could help u ive heard so many things about ocd and have read about it im taking medicines since 12 yrs and i also have the same germ phobia as u do. right now im working but still not that normal life..right now m undergoing cognitive behaviour therapy..it works atleast u can come out of huge panic..but one thing ive learnt is that its upto us we have to learn to tackle with ocd it wont go away but ive heard that brain chemistry really changes with cbt and medication…i would be glad if u call me and we can share something that could help us..

  47. February 26, 2012 at 8:37 am | #66

    ocd help

  48. Satish
    March 17, 2012 at 2:28 pm | #67

    Hi, does anyone know any good support group for OCD in bangalore? Thanks

  49. Mini
    March 19, 2012 at 1:15 pm | #68

    Hi. have an OCD washing. N am very frustrated with it. I keep washing my hands, things, clothes repeatedly. i even find it difficult to live at my home. Can anyone suggest me a trusted doctor for OCD in delhi/noida. Plz help

  50. September 19, 2011 at 4:47 pm | #69

    HI There is a very famous doctor in ahmedabad named Rajesh Maniar. He is very famous in gujarat u can consult him i also did consult him once..

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